4. Richard Walter Brown and Harriet Gooch

Family of Richard and Harriet Brown

1830 Birth Details Richard Walter Brown

Name                              Christening Date         Location

Richard                          26 Jan 1830                    Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Father William Brown, Mother Elizabeth Brown

1.16.  1857 Marriage Harriet Gooch and Richard Walter Brown

01 Nov 1857 Groom Richard Walter Brown, Bride Harriet Gooch, Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England

Marriage certificate identifies witnesses as Charles Stevens and Fanny Stevens, Minister CH Andrews and residence as Dextore St or Deutur St or Denton St (Wandsworth?).  Richard Walter Brown occupation Baker.  Father William Brown occupation baker, Father Henry Gooch occupation gun maker.

1858 Birth Details Walter Henry Brown

Name                     Christening Date      Location

William                  11 AUG 1858             Abbey, Saint Albans, Hertford, England

Father Richard Walter Brown (Baker), Mother Harriet Brown

 

1.18.  1861 Census Richard Walter and Harriet Brown Household

Address New England Field St Albans

Name                             Status                  Occupation                Age            Birthplace

Richard                          Head                    Baker                           29              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Harriet                           Wife                     Straw Bonnet Maker   25              St Albans Hertfordshire

Henry                             Son                      Scholar                        2                St Albans Hertfordshire

Elena Nease? (unmrr) Lodger                    Straw Bonnet Maker   28             Wheathampstead Hertfordshire

 

1867 Birth Details Frederick

Details noted on the death certificate

Frederick Brown, 1867, St Albans Essex England.

Details noted on extract birth certificate

23 Dec 1866 (reg Mar 1867)

St Peters St, St Albans

Father Occupation Straw Hat Manufacturer (Master)

 

1871 Census Brown Household

No information has been located from the 1871, that is relevant to the Brown family.  In 1871 family would be Richard (c 39), Harriet (c 35), Walter Henry (c12), Frederick (c 5) and if the 1881 census below is correct Martin (c 11) and Kate (c 1).   Latest on this is as follows:
Schedule Type Household
Registration District Poplar
Sub-District Poplar
Parish Poplar
County London, Middlesex
Father Richard W Brown, age 32, born Hampshire
Mother Francis Brown, age 35, born Herefordshire
Son  Walter H Brown, age 13, born Herefordshire
Son Horace Brown, age 6, born Herefordshire
Son Frederick Brown, age 4, born Herefordshire
Dau Kate Brown, age under 1, born Poplar
This information from Familysearch.org has some odd information and requires further investigation.

1881 Brown Information

There are details for a Harriet Brown and a Robert Brown in the 1881 Census.  Not able to locate anything for Harriet and Richard Brown that has relevant information.  However there is information on a Robert and Harriet Brown that could be the right family.  However the discrepancies are substantial (head’s name, head’s birth place and son Martin.  Walter Henry would be c23 if recorded in census.

 

1881 Census Brown Household

Addresss 105 High Street Poplar London, Middlesex, England 

Name                             Status                  Occupation                Age            Birthplace

Robert                            Head                    Journeyman Baker      49              St Albans Hertfordshire

Harriet                           Wife                                                         45              St Albans Hertfordshire

Frederick (unmarr)        Son                       Plasterer                      17              St Albans Hertfordshire

Martin (unmar)              Son                       Baker                          21              St Albans Hertfordshire

Kate                               Dau                      Scholar                        11              St Albans Hertfordshire

Lottie                             Dau                      Scholar                        7                St Albans Hertfordshire

 

1885 Death Richard Walter Brown

Name                              Date                                Location

Richard                           Mar 1885                         St Albans

Verification required if this is the right Brown [see later entry for an answer of no]

 

1915 Death Walter Henry Brown

Name                     Date                                   Location

Walter Henry        26/1/1915 (age 57)            153 A’Beckett St Melbourne

Occupation          Married                            Children

Labourer               Unmarr                              Nil

Parents                  Richard Henry Brown, Baker; Harriet Brown nee Gooch

Cause                    Fibroid disease of the lungs, cardiac dilation of the heart.  Post mortem held by Dr Mollison 27/1/1915  no inquest requird

Residence of Informant G Millar Const 5624 Bourke St Police Station

Where buried        Springvale

Born                       England 13 years in Victoria (1902)

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3. Richard and Sarah Brown and Children (2)

Family of William and Jane Brown

1851 Census William and Jane Brown

8 Hoover? End Farm

Name                             Status                  Occupation                Age            Birthplace

William                          Head                    Labourer                     26               Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Jane                                Wife                                                        28               Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

William                          Son                      Scholar                        5                 Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Sarah                              Dau                      Home                          2                 Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

1861 Census William and Jane Brown

182 Dagnall Lane, St Albans

Name                             Status                  Occupation                Age            Birthplace

William                          Head                    Railway Lab                 40              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Jane                                Wife                                                          42              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Sarah                              Dau                      Scholar                         12              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Luiza                              Dau                      Scholar                         7                Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Emma                             Dau                      Scholar                         5                Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Henry                             Son                       Plumber                       23              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Walter                            Son                                                            1                Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Thomas Bird                  Lodger Gen Lab                                        62              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

 

Nothing after 1861 for William Brown (b1822) or family.  Could be that they emigrated or still to be located in Census records for UK.

 

Family of Henry and Elizabeth Brown

1871 Census Henry and Elizabeth Brown

42 Lower Dagnall St, St Albans

Name                             Status                  Occupation                Age            Birthplace

Henry                             Head                    Plumber                       43              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Elizabeth                        Wife                                                         45              Exeter, Devon

William C                      Son                       Painter                         24              St Albans Hertfordshire

1881 Census Elizabeth Brown

323 Lower Dagnall St, St Albans

Name                             Status                  Occupation                Age            Birthplace

Elizabeth Brown            Head                    Widow                         56              Exeter, Devon

Plus four (4) lodgers

1891 Census Elizabeth Brown

46 High St, Bagshot, Surrey

Name                             Status                  Occupation                Age            Birthplace

Elizabeth Brown            Head                    Laundry Washer        72                Exeter, Devon

Frank Rose                    Grandson Scholar                                    9                 Bagshot, Surrey

(not sure is this the same Elizabeth Brown)

 

2. Richard and Sarah Brown and Children (1)

Family of Richard and Sarah Brown
If connected to William Brown there is a lengthy Swain family history see below.

1781 Marriage Richard Brown and Sarah Swain

7 Jun 1781 Luton Bedfordshire

Family Richard and Sarah Brown

Name             Christening Date             Location

Richard                 11 Jan 1782               Saint Mary Luton Bedfordshire

Dinnes                   17 Jul 1785                 Saint Mary Luton Bedfordshire

Sophia                   21 or24 Dec 1786     Saint Mary Luton Bedfordshire

Fanney                  15 Feb 1789               Saint Mary Luton Bedfordshire

Sarah                     03 Apr 1791               Saint Mary Luton Bedfordshire

William                  05 May 1793             Saint Mary Luton Bedfordshire

John                       01or 11  Jan 1795     Saint Mary Luton Bedfordshire

James                    01 Jan 1797               Saint Mary Luton Bedfordshire

Samuel                  01 Jan 1797               Saint Mary Luton Bedfordshire

Ann                        26 May 1799             Saint Mary Luton Bedfordshire

Family of William and Elizabeth Brown
Luton, Hemel Hempstead and St Albans

1791 Birth Details Elizabeth Collins

Name             Christening Date             Location

Elizabeth               18 Sep 1791               Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

1793 Birth Details William Brown (two options)

Name             Christening Date             Location

William                  5 May 1793               St Mary Luton Bedfordshire

Father Richard Brown, Mother Sarah

Or

Name             Christening Date             Location

William                  28 Sept 1793              St Mary Luton Bedfordshire

Father James Brown, Mother Elizabeth

Of these the most likely is the first (based n the fact that William Brown’s first daughter was named Sarah and his youngest son was named Richard).  However there is a big gap between the marriage date of Richard Brown and Sarah Swain (7 June 1781) and the baptism of William Brown (5 May 1793).  But a big family appears (see below).

1815 Marriage William Brown and Elizabeth Collins

14 Apr 1815 Groom William Brown, Bride Elizabeth Collins Hemel Hempstead

1841 Census Brown Household

Address: Dagnal Lane St Albans.

Name                             Gender               Occupation                Age            Birthplace

William                          M                         Baker                           45 (1796) Hertfordshire

Elizabeth                        F                                                               50 (1791) Hertfordshire

Sarah                              F                                                               20              Hertfordshire

Maria                              F                                                               20              Hertfordshire

William                          M                                                              19              Hertfordshire

Henry                             M                                                              15              Hertfordshire

Richard                          M                                                               10              Hertfordshire

 

1851 Census Brown Household

182 Dagnall Lane, St Albans

Name                             Gender               Occupation                Age            Birthplace

William                          Head                   Baker                           60              Luton, Bedfordshire

Eliza                               Wife                                                        59              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Maria                              Dau                     Stawhat Maker            30              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Henry                              Son                     Plumber                       23              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Richard                            Son                     Baker                          19              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

1861 Census Brown Household

151 Spicer St, St Albans

Name                             Gender               Occupation                Age            Birthplace

William                          Head                   Baker                           69              Luton, Bedfordshire

Eliza                               Wife                   Dressmaker                  70              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

Maria                              Dau                    Stawhat Maker             41              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

William                          Grandson            Scholar                        10              St Albans Hertfordshire

1871 Census Brown Household

458 Cross St, St Albans

Name                             Status                  Occupation                Age            Birthplace

Elizabeth Brown             Head                   Independent                 84              Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire

1. Basic Chronology

1791                      Elizabeth Collins born Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire, parents unknown

1792/6                   William Brown born (Christening 5 May 1793 St Mary?) Luton Bedfordshire, parents Richard and Sarah Brown?

14 April 1815       William Brown and Elizabeth Collins married in Hemel Hempstead.  William and Elizabeth had a number of children; it appears twins Sarah and Maria and then in order William, Henry and Richard.

1816                      Henry Gooch born (Canterbury Kent).

1821                      Sarah and Maria Brown born (parents William and Elizabeth Brown).

1822                      William Brown born (parents William and Elizabeth Brown).

1826                      Henry Brown born (parents William and Elizabeth Brown).

26/1/1830             Richard Walter Brown born (parents William and Elizabeth Brown) in Hemel Hempstead.

14/12/1831          Catherine Howell married Henry Gooch (gunsmith) in St Albans Abbey 14/12/1831 Witnesses were Ann Dirton, John Nott & Thos. Brown.

21/4/1835             Emma Gooch born.  Baptised St Albans Cathedral 31/7/1844.  Father Henry Gooch, mother Catherine Gooch

13/12/1835          Harriet Gooch born, Saint Peter, Saint Albans, Hertford, England.  Father Henry Gooch, mother Catherine Gooch

1841                      Census Richard Brown listed as a Baker in the 1841 Census.  Address is 395 New England Field St Albans.  Other members of the household; Elizabeth, Sarah, Maria, William, Henry, Richard.

1841                      Census Henry Gooch, Gunmaker age 25, Catherine Gooch age 25, Georgina Gooch, age 9, Harriot age 6, Emma age 3.  Address St Peters St St Albans Hertfordshire.

1851                      Information on the Brown’s and Gooch’s from the Census required.

18/11/1843          Sarah Ann born baptised St Albans Cathedral 31/7/1844.  Father Henry Gooch, mother Catherine Gooch

1/11/1857             Richard Brown and Harriet Gooch married in St Pancras London.  No explanation of why they were married in St Pancras.  Both gave residence as Dextore St or Deutur St or Denton St (Wandsworth?). 

11/8/1858             Walter Henry Brown christening (parents Richard Walter Brown (baker) and Harriet Brown) in St Albans Cathedral.

1860                      Deaths Mar 1860, Catharine Gooch, St Albans

1860                      Martin Brown born (St Albans) father Robert Brown and mother Harriet.

1861                      Richard Brown listed as a Baker and Harriet as a Straw Bonnet maker.  Other members of the household; Henry scholar, Elena Nease (?), lodger aged 28 born Wheathampstead Herts, occupation Straw Bonnet Maker.  Address is 395 Dagnal Lane St Albans.

1861                      Henry Gooch age 45 gun maker, Georgina age 28 Bonnet Sewer, Sarah A age 27 Bonnet Sewer.  Address Fishpool St St Albans Hertfordshire.

1861-71                Richard and Elizabeth Brown die in St Albans.

1864                      Frederick Brown born (St Albans) father Robert Brown and mother Harriet, if this the same person as following?

23/12/1866          Frederick Brown born St Peters St, St Albans.  Father Richard Brown Straw Hat Manufacturer (Master) mother Harriet.

1870                      Kate Brown born (Poplar Middlesex) father Robert Brown and mother Harriet.

1871                      I can’t find any relevant information for the Browns in the 1871 Census.

1871                      Henry Gooch gun maker age 58, Catherine Gooch age 37 Straw Hat maker.  Address 31 Fishpool St St Albans Hertfordshire.

1874                      Lottie Brown born (Poplar Middlesex) father Robert Brown and mother Harriet

1881                      Information in the 1881 Census is subject to speculation as I can’t find obviously correct information.  The nearest information is a Robert Brown and family (see table below).  This identifies Robert Brown as being a Journey man Baker (aged 49), wife Harriet (aged 45) and four children Martin, Baker (aged 21), Frederick, Plasterer (aged 17), Kate (aged 11) and Lottie (aged 7).  All family members are identified as being born in St Albans except for the two girls who are listed as being born in Poplar Middlesex.  Address is 105 High St Poplar Middlesex.  Note Henry Brown is not listed as being at that address.

1881                      Henry Gooch gun maker age 72, Catherine Gooch age 45 Straw Hat maker.  Address 2 Fishpool St St Albans Hertfordshire.

1883                      Henry Gooch dies in St Albans age 73.

1885                      Richard Brown dies aged 54 in St Albans.  I haven’t found a reference to Harriet Brown’s death.

1888                      Frederick Brown settles in Victoria.  According to his son, Frederick Brown made a number of trips to Victoria, before he settled in Melbourne.  He was described as visiting South Africa as a ship’s baker.

7/9/1889               Frederick Brown, Age 22. Batchelor B. 1867, St Albans Essex, England, Married 7 September 1889 in Christ’s Church, Hawthorn Victoria, Witnesses Thomas William Joy and A H Brady.

1891                      Census Catherine Gooch age 59 Straw Hat maker.  Address 2 Fishpool St St Albans Hertfordshire.

26/1/1915             Walter Henry Brown, father Richard Hy Brown, mother Hart Gooch, age 57 (b 1858) died 1915 Reg No 2489

22/4/1920             Frederick Brown dies at Church St Richmond, Oedema of lungs, Arterio Scleroris and Heart failure.  Treated for 2 years, last treatment 22/4/20 Dr Matheson.  Buried Springvale Cemetery 22/4/20