1915 Death Walter Henry Brown
Name Date Location
Walter
Henry 26/1/1915 (age 57) 153 A’Beckett St Melbourne
Occupation Married Children
Labourer Unmarr Nil
Parents
Richard Henry Brown, Baker
Harriet Brown nee Gooch
Cause Fibroid
disease of the lungs, cardiac dilation of the heart. Post mortem held by Dr Mollison 27/1/1915 no
inquest requird
Residence of Informant G Millar Const
5624 Bourke St Police Station
Where buried Springvale
Born England
13 years in Victoria (c1902)
Information on
his birth confirmed the basic details.
Name Christening
Date Location
Walter
Henry 11 AUG 1858 Abbey, Saint Albans, Hertford, England
Father Richard Walter Brown (Baker), Mother Harriet Brown
And while the
immigration record proved more difficult (nothing relevant comes up on the
Inward Shipping Index), there is an entry on the outwards shipping:
Emigration
Walter Brown
Depart London 27 May 1902 to Melbourne aged 41, Baker (forgot to note down the
ship). Birth date is a bit out (as birth
certificate is 1858 and makes would make Walter 44). I haven't found any record
of immigration to Melbourne.
However
understanding the information between these records is more difficult
I couldn’t find
any thing on the voter’s roll. But
Census has some information that may be relevant (but it is problematic because
it brings together the Richard Brown and Robert Brown confusion).
1861 Census Richard Walter
and Harriet Brown Household
Address New England Field St Albans
Name Status Occupation Age Birthplace
Richard Head Baker 29 Hemel
Hempstead Hertfordshire
Harriet Wife Straw Bonnet Maker 25 St
Albans Hertfordshire
Henry Son Scholar 2 St Albans Hertfordshire
Emma Neale
(unmrr) Lodger Straw Bonnet Maker 28 Wheathampstead
Hertfordshire
1871 Census
Brown Family
Schedule Type Household
Registration District Poplar
Sub-District Poplar
Parish Poplar
County London, Middlesex
Father Richard W Brown, age 32, born Hampshire. Mother Francis Brown, age 35, born Herefordshire. Son Walter H Brown, age 13, born Herefordshire. Son Horace Brown, age 6, born Herefordshire. Son Frederick Brown, age 4, born Herefordshire. Dau Kate Brown, age under 1, born Poplar.
This information from Familysearch.org index. Looking at the digitised record on Ancestry.com, the script is very poor and hard to read. For Richard W the birth place looks closer to Herefordshire or maybe Hertfordshire. All the other mentions of birth place are "do" that is same as above (except for Kate which is clearly Poplar). Mother "Francis" could be Harriet poorly written.
Registration District Poplar
Sub-District Poplar
Parish Poplar
County London, Middlesex
Father Richard W Brown, age 32, born Hampshire. Mother Francis Brown, age 35, born Herefordshire. Son Walter H Brown, age 13, born Herefordshire. Son Horace Brown, age 6, born Herefordshire. Son Frederick Brown, age 4, born Herefordshire. Dau Kate Brown, age under 1, born Poplar.
This information from Familysearch.org index. Looking at the digitised record on Ancestry.com, the script is very poor and hard to read. For Richard W the birth place looks closer to Herefordshire or maybe Hertfordshire. All the other mentions of birth place are "do" that is same as above (except for Kate which is clearly Poplar). Mother "Francis" could be Harriet poorly written.
1881 Census
Address
105 High Street Poplar London, Middlesex, England
Name Status Occupation Age Birthplace
Robert Head Journeyman Baker 49 (1832)St Albans
Hertfordshire
Harriet Wife 45 (1836)St Albans
Hertfordshire
Frederick (unmarr) Son Plasterer 17 (1864)St
Albans Hertfordshire
Martin (unmar) Son Baker 21 (1860)St Albans Hertfordshire
Kate Dau Scholar 11 (1870)St
Albans Hertfordshire
Lottie Dau Scholar 7 (1874)St
Albans Hertfordshire
1891 Census
I haven't found anything for
this census
1901 Census
Address 41 Ettrick Street Poplar
London, Middlesex, England (3 rooms)
Name Status Occupation Age Birthplace
Harriet Wid 64 (1837)St Albans Hertfordshire
Walter (unmarr) Son (s)BreadworkerBaker 42 (1859)St Albans Hertfordshire
Kate (unmar) Dau (s)Forewomen confectioner30 (1871) Poplar London
plus three boarders (cooper and to gas stokers)
1911 Census
Address 41 Ettrick Street Poplar
London, Middlesex, England (3 rooms)
Name Status Occupation Age Birthplace
Harriet Wid Old age pensioner 74 (1837) St
Albans Hertfordshire (for the last three years paralysis)
Kate (unmarr)
Dau Boys trouser
machinists (wkr) 42 (1869)Poplar
London
plus one boarder
Here is Your Problem
If Robert and
Richard Brown are two different people there are many coincidences. Both with similar though slightly different
ages, birth locations, both having the same trade, both marrying women call
Harriet and both having (some) with the same name and roughly the same
ages.
There is a Robert
Arthur Brown bapt 26/12/1832 St Albans Hertfordshire, parents William and
Sarah.
Walter Brown
living with his mother and sister in Poplar in 1901 looks like the child of
Robert Brown (location, sister Kate), but emigrates to Melbourne and is
identified at death as being the son of Richard and Harriet Brown.
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