Friday 28 March 2014
24. Photographs 2
These photographs are in my collection and I can email digital reasonable copies if you want
I always understood this to be Fred's brother "Tom" Brown, Ida Brown and Frederick Brown on the wedding day of Ida and Frederick. From research elsewhere who was Tom?
This must be around 1907 (Pa is Eddie Brown)
Eddie Brown is lying on the ground to the left of photograph
Eddie Brown 1920 (one of a matching pair with Olive Hindmarsh - see the Hindmarsh Blog)
Wedding Report for Eddie Brown and Olive Hindmarsh
Reginald Brown (son of Eddie and Olive Brown) c1930
Reginald Brown (son of Eddie and Olive Brown) 1944 enlisted RAAF
Alberta Lauer 1928 (Elyse Brown very similar at the same age)
Albert Lauer c1915
Ida Brown c1910-15
Rui 7 months (beyond that I have no information)
Eddie, Olive, Babs and Reg at Wedding Breakfast Saracen's Head Hotel
Tuesday 25 March 2014
23. Photographs 1
Most of the following are from Lorraine Tebbut
Three sons of Frederick and Ida Brown Xmas 1916 (left to right Gordon, Reg and Eddie)
22. Frederick Brown - son of Richard Walter Brown and Harriet Gooch
1866 Key Information from the Birth Registration
When and where born; 23 December 1866, St Peters Street, St Albans
Name; Frederick
Sex; Boy
Name and Surname of Father; Richard Walter Brown
Name Surname and Maiden Surname of Mother; Harriet Brown formerly Gooch
Occupation of Father; Strawhat Manufacturer (Master)
Signature, Description and Residence of Informant; Richard Walter Brown Father St Peters St St Albans
When Registered; 14 January 1867
1871 Census - Brown Family
Schedule Type Household
Registration District Poplar
Sub-District Poplar
Parish Poplar
County London, Middlesex
Father Richard W Brown, age 32, born Hampshire. Mother Francis Brown, age 35, born Herefordshire. Son Walter H Brown, age 13, born Herefordshire. Son Horace Brown, age 6, born Herefordshire. Son Frederick Brown, age 4, born Herefordshire. Dau Kate Brown, age under 1, born Poplar.
This information from Familysearch.org index. Looking at the digitised record on Ancestry.com, the script is very poor and hard to read. For Richard W the birth place looks closer to Herefordshire or maybe Hertfordshire. All the other mentions of birth place are "do" that is same as above (except for Kate which is clearly Poplar). Mother "Francis" could be Harriet poorly written.
1881 Census, Residence 105 High St Poplar London, Robert (Head), Occupation Journeyman Baker, Age 49, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Harriet (Wife), Occupation, Age 45, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Frederick (Son) Occupation Plasterer, Age 17, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Martin (Son) Occupation Baker, Age 21, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Kate (Dau) Occupation Scholar, Age 11, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Lottie (Dau) Occupation Scholar, Age 7, Born St Albans Hertfordshire.
1888 Frederick Brown resident in Melbourne Victoria. According to his son, Frederick Brown made a number of trips to Victoria, before he settled in Melbourne. He was described as visiting South Africa as a ship’s baker. The diamond in ring that his son Frederick inherited, was said to be a diamond won in South Africa by Frederick gambling.
1889 Frederick Brown Age 22. Batchelor B. 1867, St Albans Essex, England, Married 7 September1889, Ida Wild, Christ’s Church, Hawthorn Victoria, Witnesses Thomas William Joy and A H Brady
1890 Jessie Victoria Brown Born 29 July 1890 Bowen St Hawthorn, Victoria. Frederick is identified as aged 23 and occupation baker, born St Albans England. Mother aged 25, born Middleborough, England. Jessie married Ruben Wellington Williams 22 April 1920. Note that Frederick Brown collapsed and died on the evening of the wedding. Jessie died 3 June 1946 (Richmond), buried 5 June 1946 Springvale.
1895 Ida Frederica Brown Born Hawthorn, Victoria. Ida married Albert Herman Lauer 1921. Ida died Adelaide South Australia
1897 Frederick George Edison Brown Born 8 November 1897 19 Henry St Hawthorn. Informant Eva Wild of 533 Church Street Richmond. Eddie married Olive Stella Hindmarsh 1922 Richmond. Died Caulfield 24 May 1970, Buried Dromana 26 May 1970.
1899 Reginald Alfred Brown Born Melbourne. Married Olive Marion Prowd 1927. Died 2 September 1967, buried 4 September 1967.
1901 (3 April) Gordon Stanley Brown Born Richmond. Married Eva Maude Adamthwaite 12 April 1924 St Stephens Church, Richmond. Died 27 May 1960, Portarlington, Buried 30 May 1960 Fawlkner Cemetery.
1904 Elsie Irene Brown Born Richmond. Married Rudolph Eberherdt Lauer (brother of Albert Lauer see above) 1927. Died 4 April 1973 Malvern, Buried 7 April 1973.
The above information (about the children of Frederick Brown) is from Lorraine Tebbutt, who generously shared it with me. Lorraine identifies Frederick Brown as Frederick Charles Brown born Ware Hertfordshire (my research doesn't agree with this, as can be seen from the birth certificate).
1918 Short-Weight Bread.
Inspector James Reid, the newly appointed officer of the Eastern Sub urbs Weights and Measures Union, made his debut at Richmond Court on Monday, when he charged Frederick Brown, 539 Church-street, with having sold short-weight bread. Inspector Reid said he stopped- one of defendant's carts and found 54 2-lb. loaves to be 42oz. short weight. A fine of 1/6 for each oz. short, with £1 5/6 costs was imposed.
Richmond Guardian (Vic_ 1917 - 1918), Saturday 3 August 1918, page 2
1920 Frederick Brown dies Church St Richmond, Oedema of lungs, Arterio Scleroris and Heart failure. Treated for 2 years, last treatment 22/4/20 Dr Matheson. Buried Springvale Cemetery 22/4/20.
1920 Notice is hereby given, that after the expiration of 14 days of the publication hereof application will be made to the Supreme Court of the State of Victoria, in its Probate jurisdiction that the PROBATE of the LAST WILL and TESTAMENT of FREDERICK BROWN, late of 539 Church street in the State of Victoria, baker, deceased, may granted to Ida Brown of 530 Church street Richmond aforesaid widow, the sole executrix named in and appointed by the said will.
Dated this fourth day of June 1920
Alfred W Fergie 469, Little Collins Street Melbourne. Proctor for the said executrix
The Argus (Vic), Saturday 5 June 1920, p22
When and where born; 23 December 1866, St Peters Street, St Albans
Name; Frederick
Sex; Boy
Name and Surname of Father; Richard Walter Brown
Name Surname and Maiden Surname of Mother; Harriet Brown formerly Gooch
Occupation of Father; Strawhat Manufacturer (Master)
Signature, Description and Residence of Informant; Richard Walter Brown Father St Peters St St Albans
When Registered; 14 January 1867
1871 Census - Brown Family
Registration District Poplar
Sub-District Poplar
Parish Poplar
County London, Middlesex
Father Richard W Brown, age 32, born Hampshire. Mother Francis Brown, age 35, born Herefordshire. Son Walter H Brown, age 13, born Herefordshire. Son Horace Brown, age 6, born Herefordshire. Son Frederick Brown, age 4, born Herefordshire. Dau Kate Brown, age under 1, born Poplar.
This information from Familysearch.org index. Looking at the digitised record on Ancestry.com, the script is very poor and hard to read. For Richard W the birth place looks closer to Herefordshire or maybe Hertfordshire. All the other mentions of birth place are "do" that is same as above (except for Kate which is clearly Poplar). Mother "Francis" could be Harriet poorly written.
1881 Census, Residence 105 High St Poplar London, Robert (Head), Occupation Journeyman Baker, Age 49, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Harriet (Wife), Occupation, Age 45, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Frederick (Son) Occupation Plasterer, Age 17, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Martin (Son) Occupation Baker, Age 21, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Kate (Dau) Occupation Scholar, Age 11, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Lottie (Dau) Occupation Scholar, Age 7, Born St Albans Hertfordshire.
1888 Frederick Brown resident in Melbourne Victoria. According to his son, Frederick Brown made a number of trips to Victoria, before he settled in Melbourne. He was described as visiting South Africa as a ship’s baker. The diamond in ring that his son Frederick inherited, was said to be a diamond won in South Africa by Frederick gambling.
1889 Frederick Brown Age 22. Batchelor B. 1867, St Albans Essex, England, Married 7 September1889, Ida Wild, Christ’s Church, Hawthorn Victoria, Witnesses Thomas William Joy and A H Brady
1890 Jessie Victoria Brown Born 29 July 1890 Bowen St Hawthorn, Victoria. Frederick is identified as aged 23 and occupation baker, born St Albans England. Mother aged 25, born Middleborough, England. Jessie married Ruben Wellington Williams 22 April 1920. Note that Frederick Brown collapsed and died on the evening of the wedding. Jessie died 3 June 1946 (Richmond), buried 5 June 1946 Springvale.
1895 Ida Frederica Brown Born Hawthorn, Victoria. Ida married Albert Herman Lauer 1921. Ida died Adelaide South Australia
1897 Frederick George Edison Brown Born 8 November 1897 19 Henry St Hawthorn. Informant Eva Wild of 533 Church Street Richmond. Eddie married Olive Stella Hindmarsh 1922 Richmond. Died Caulfield 24 May 1970, Buried Dromana 26 May 1970.
1899 Reginald Alfred Brown Born Melbourne. Married Olive Marion Prowd 1927. Died 2 September 1967, buried 4 September 1967.
1901 (3 April) Gordon Stanley Brown Born Richmond. Married Eva Maude Adamthwaite 12 April 1924 St Stephens Church, Richmond. Died 27 May 1960, Portarlington, Buried 30 May 1960 Fawlkner Cemetery.
1904 Elsie Irene Brown Born Richmond. Married Rudolph Eberherdt Lauer (brother of Albert Lauer see above) 1927. Died 4 April 1973 Malvern, Buried 7 April 1973.
The above information (about the children of Frederick Brown) is from Lorraine Tebbutt, who generously shared it with me. Lorraine identifies Frederick Brown as Frederick Charles Brown born Ware Hertfordshire (my research doesn't agree with this, as can be seen from the birth certificate).
1918 Short-Weight Bread.
Inspector James Reid, the newly appointed officer of the Eastern Sub urbs Weights and Measures Union, made his debut at Richmond Court on Monday, when he charged Frederick Brown, 539 Church-street, with having sold short-weight bread. Inspector Reid said he stopped- one of defendant's carts and found 54 2-lb. loaves to be 42oz. short weight. A fine of 1/6 for each oz. short, with £1 5/6 costs was imposed.
Richmond Guardian (Vic_ 1917 - 1918), Saturday 3 August 1918, page 2
1920 Frederick Brown dies Church St Richmond, Oedema of lungs, Arterio Scleroris and Heart failure. Treated for 2 years, last treatment 22/4/20 Dr Matheson. Buried Springvale Cemetery 22/4/20.
1920 Notice is hereby given, that after the expiration of 14 days of the publication hereof application will be made to the Supreme Court of the State of Victoria, in its Probate jurisdiction that the PROBATE of the LAST WILL and TESTAMENT of FREDERICK BROWN, late of 539 Church street in the State of Victoria, baker, deceased, may granted to Ida Brown of 530 Church street Richmond aforesaid widow, the sole executrix named in and appointed by the said will.
Dated this fourth day of June 1920
Alfred W Fergie 469, Little Collins Street Melbourne. Proctor for the said executrix
The Argus (Vic), Saturday 5 June 1920, p22
21. Richard Walter Brown and Harriet Gooch - Marriage Certificate
1 Nov 1857 Groom Richard Walter Brown, Bride Harriet Gooch, Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England
Marriage by Banns requires an announcement three Sundays before the wedding that they wedding is to take place.
Denton Street is the address for both Richard and Harriet at the time of marriage.
By August 1858 christening of their son Walter, couple were back living in St Albans.
I haven't done any research on Charles and Fanny Stevens. But there are a few options from a cursory Google search.
Marriage certificate identifies witnesses as Charles Stevens and Fanny Stevens, Minister CH Andrews and residence as Dextore St or Deutur St or Denton St (Wandsworth?). Richard Walter Brown occupation Baker. Father William Brown occupation baker, Father Henry Gooch occupation gun maker.
20. Richard Walter and Harriet Brown - Strawhat Manufacturers
While the information in the preceding post is slim, a few assumptions and conclusions can be made or drawn.
Its worth noting the social and economic conditions from 1870s to 1900.
The Long Depression (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Depression) was significant though just one of a long line of financial crises "The United Kingdom, which had previously experienced crises every decade since the 1820s, was unusually insulated from the effects of this financial crisis, even though the Bank of England kept interest rates as high as 9 percent in the 1870s"
Strawhat manufacturing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_plaiting) "The plaiting of straw in the counties of Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, Berkshire and Hertfordshire formerly gave employment to many thousands of women and young children; but this had largely ended by the beginning of the 20th century: the number of English plaiters, all told, was not more than a few hundreds in 1907, as compared with 30,000 in 1871....The English industry was eventually killed by free trade from 1860 which allowed cheap imports of plait from Italy and later China and Japan."
Richard Walter Brown changed his trade from Baker to Strawhat manufacturer in the 1860s. In the 1861 census, Richard is by trade a Baker. By 1865, he has ceased his partnership with Betsy Rudd as strawhat manufacturer. In 1866 Richard is described in the birth certificate record of his son as a strawhat maker. By 1881 Richard is back working as a "journeyman" baker.
Without having any specific information about what happened - it was a bad time to start working in the strawhat industry. Not only was the overall economy in England poor through out the 1870s, but competition was intense from 1860. Richard and Harriet would have struggled to have any success.
Saturday 15 March 2014
19. Richard Walter Brown Harriet Brown nee Gooch and Children c1830 - 1930
Chronology
1830 Richard Walter Brown born 26 Jan Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire, father William Brown, mother Elizabeth.
1835 Harriet Gooch born 13 Dec St Albans Hertfordshire, father Henry Gooch, mother Catharine.
1841 Census, Residence Dagnall Lane St Albans, William (Head), Occupation Baker, Age 45, Born Hertfordshire; Elizabeth (Wife), Age 50, Born Hertfordshire; Sarah (Dau), Age 20, Born Hertfordshire; Maria (Dau), Age 20, Born Hertfordshire; William (Son), Age 19, Born Hertfordshire; Henry (Son), Age 15, Born Hertfordshire; Richard (Son), Age 10, Born Hertfordshire.
1841 Census, Residence St Peters St Albans, Henry Gooch (Head), Occupation Gun maker, Age 25 Catherine (Wife), Age 25, Georgina (Dau), Age 9, Harriot (Dau), Age 6, Emma (Dau) Age 6.
1851 Census, Residence 182 Dagnall Lane St Albans, William (Head), Occupation Baker, Age 60, Born Luton Bedfordshire; Eliza (Wife), Age 59, Born Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire; Maria (Dau), Occupation Staw hat Maker, Age 30, Born Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire; Henry (Son), Age 23, Occupation Plumber, Born Hertfordshire; Richard (Son), Occupation Baker, Age 19, Born Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire
1857 Richard Walter Brown marries Harriet Gooch, Old Church St Pancras London. Groom's occupation Baker, father William Brown (Baker); Bride's father Henry Gooch (Gun maker), witnesses Charles and Fanny Stevens.
1858 Walter Henry Brown christened Abbey, Saint Albans, Hertford, England. Son of Richard Walter Brown and Harriet Gooch.
1861 Census, Residence 151 Spicer St, St Albans, William (Head), Occupation Baker, Age 69, Born Luton Bedfordshire; Eliza (Wife), Occupation Dress maker, Age 70, Born Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire; Maria (Dau), Occupation Staw hat Maker, Age 41, Born Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire; William (grandson), Occupation Scholar, Age 10, Born St Albans Hertfordshire.
1861 Census, Residence New England Field St Albans, Richard (Head), Occupation Baker, Age 29, Born Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire; Harriet (Wife), Occupation Bonnet Maker, Age 25, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Henry (Son) Occupation Scholar, Age 2, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Emma Neale (unmarr), Occupation Lodger, Straw Bonnet Maker, Age 28, Born Wheathampstead Hertfordshire.
1864 18 July Horace John Brown Born England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 1865 ABBEY,SAINT ALBANS,HERTFORD,ENGLAND father: Richard Walter Brown mother: Harriet. I haven't sighted the certificate yet
1865 Richard Walter Brown and Betsy Rudd cease their partnership as straw hat manufacturers in St Albans Hertfordshire.
1866 Frederick Brown Born 26 Dec, St Peter Street St Albans Hertfordshire. Father Richard Brown (Straw Hat Manufacturer (Master)), Mother Harriet.
1870 Kate Brown born. Depending on the Census records, Kate was born in either St Albans or Poplar (more likely).
1871 Census, Residence 31 Fishpool St St Albans, Henry Gooch (Head), Occupation Gun maker, Age 58, Catherine (Dau), Occupation Straw hat maker, Age 37.
1871 Census - Brown Family
Schedule Type Household
Registration District Poplar
Sub-District Poplar
Parish Poplar
County London, Middlesex
Father Richard W Brown, age 32, born Hampshire. Mother Francis Brown, age 35, born Herefordshire. Son Walter H Brown, age 13, born Herefordshire. Son Horace Brown, age 6, born Herefordshire. Son Frederick Brown, age 4, born Herefordshire. Dau Kate Brown, age under 1, born Poplar.
This information from Familysearch.org index. Looking at the digitised record on Ancestry.com, the script is very poor and hard to read. For Richard W the birth place looks closer to Herefordshire or maybe Hertfordshire. All the other mentions of birth place are "do" that is same as above (except for Kate which is clearly Poplar). Mother "Francis" could be Harriet poorly written.
1873 Couldn't find any Lottie Brown, but a Louisa Brown, Born 24/5/1873 Workhouse St Pancras Bapt 25/6/1873 Old Church St Pancras London Mother Harriet Brown, No evidence that this person is Lottie Brown dau of Richard Walter and Harriet Brown.
1878 Electoral Record - Richard Walter Brown Residence 33 Avenue Rd St Mary Stratford Bow Tower Hamlets.
1881 Census, Residence 105 High St Poplar London, Robert (Head), Occupation Journeyman Baker, Age 49, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Harriet (Wife), Occupation, Age 45, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Frederick (Son) Occupation Plasterer, Age 17, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Martin (Son) Occupation Baker, Age 21, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Kate (Dau) Occupation Scholar, Age 11, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Lottie (Dau) Occupation Scholar, Age 7, Born St Albans Hertfordshire.
1883 Henry Gooch aged 73 dies St Albans
1886 Lottie Brown Death June 1886, 14 yrs, Mile End, 1c, 321. Not sighted this certificate so I can't be sure that this person is the daughter of Harriet and Richard Walter Brown - I now have this certificate and she is not the child of Harriet and Richard Walter
1888 Frederick Brown resident in Melbourne Victoria. According to his son, Frederick Brown made a number of trips to Victoria, before he settled in Melbourne. He was described as visiting South Africa as a ship’s baker.
1888 Electoral Record - Richard Walter Brown Residence 29 Aberfeldy St Dee St Tower Hamlets Poplar
1889 Frederick Brown Age 22. Batchelor B. 1867, St Albans Essex, England, Married 7 Sep Ida Wild, Christ’s Church, Hawthorn Victoria, Witnesses Thomas William Joy and A H Brady
1891 Census Catherine Gooch age 59 Straw Hat maker. Address 2 Fishpool St St Albans Hertfordshire.
1893 Electoral Record - Richard Walter Brown Residence 48 Ettrick St Tower Hamlets Poplar.
1895 Electoral Record - Richard Walter Brown Residence 41 Ettrick St Tower Hamlets Poplar.
1899 Richard Walter Brown Death March 1899, 66 yrs, Poplar, 1c, 421. Not sighted this certificate so I can't be sure that this is the correct person (pretty confident though).
1901 Census, Residence 41 Ettrick St Poplar London, Harriet (Head), Occupation Widow, Age 64, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Walter (Son) Occupation Breadworker Baker, Age 42, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Kate (Dau) Occupation Forewoman confectioner, Age 30, Born Poplar (plus three boarders - one cooper and two gas stokers).
1902 Walter Brown (baker) Emigrates from London to Melbourne.
1911 Census, record 41 Ettrick St Poplar, London, Harriet (Widow), Occupation Old age pensioner, Age 74, Born St Albans Hertfordshire (for the last three years paralysis; Kate (Dau) Occupation Boys trouser machinist (wkr), Age 30, Born Poplar (plus one boarder).
1911 Harriet Brown dies 41 Ettrick St, Poplar, Tower Hamlets, London.
1915 Walter Henry Brown dies 153 A’Beckett St, Melbourne.
1920 Frederick Brown dies Church St Richmond, Oedema of lungs, Arterio Scleroris and Heart failure. Treated for 2 years, last treatment 22/4/20 Dr Matheson. Buried Springvale Cemetery 22/4/20.
I haven't searched for Kate Brown's death yet.
1830 Richard Walter Brown born 26 Jan Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire, father William Brown, mother Elizabeth.
1835 Harriet Gooch born 13 Dec St Albans Hertfordshire, father Henry Gooch, mother Catharine.
1841 Census, Residence Dagnall Lane St Albans, William (Head), Occupation Baker, Age 45, Born Hertfordshire; Elizabeth (Wife), Age 50, Born Hertfordshire; Sarah (Dau), Age 20, Born Hertfordshire; Maria (Dau), Age 20, Born Hertfordshire; William (Son), Age 19, Born Hertfordshire; Henry (Son), Age 15, Born Hertfordshire; Richard (Son), Age 10, Born Hertfordshire.
1841 Census, Residence St Peters St Albans, Henry Gooch (Head), Occupation Gun maker, Age 25 Catherine (Wife), Age 25, Georgina (Dau), Age 9, Harriot (Dau), Age 6, Emma (Dau) Age 6.
1851 Census, Residence 182 Dagnall Lane St Albans, William (Head), Occupation Baker, Age 60, Born Luton Bedfordshire; Eliza (Wife), Age 59, Born Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire; Maria (Dau), Occupation Staw hat Maker, Age 30, Born Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire; Henry (Son), Age 23, Occupation Plumber, Born Hertfordshire; Richard (Son), Occupation Baker, Age 19, Born Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire
1857 Richard Walter Brown marries Harriet Gooch, Old Church St Pancras London. Groom's occupation Baker, father William Brown (Baker); Bride's father Henry Gooch (Gun maker), witnesses Charles and Fanny Stevens.
1858 Walter Henry Brown christened Abbey, Saint Albans, Hertford, England. Son of Richard Walter Brown and Harriet Gooch.
1861 Census, Residence 151 Spicer St, St Albans, William (Head), Occupation Baker, Age 69, Born Luton Bedfordshire; Eliza (Wife), Occupation Dress maker, Age 70, Born Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire; Maria (Dau), Occupation Staw hat Maker, Age 41, Born Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire; William (grandson), Occupation Scholar, Age 10, Born St Albans Hertfordshire.
1861 Census, Residence New England Field St Albans, Richard (Head), Occupation Baker, Age 29, Born Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire; Harriet (Wife), Occupation Bonnet Maker, Age 25, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Henry (Son) Occupation Scholar, Age 2, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Emma Neale (unmarr), Occupation Lodger, Straw Bonnet Maker, Age 28, Born Wheathampstead Hertfordshire.
1864 18 July Horace John Brown Born England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 1865 ABBEY,SAINT ALBANS,HERTFORD,ENGLAND father: Richard Walter Brown mother: Harriet. I haven't sighted the certificate yet
1865 Richard Walter Brown and Betsy Rudd cease their partnership as straw hat manufacturers in St Albans Hertfordshire.
1866 Frederick Brown Born 26 Dec, St Peter Street St Albans Hertfordshire. Father Richard Brown (Straw Hat Manufacturer (Master)), Mother Harriet.
1870 Kate Brown born. Depending on the Census records, Kate was born in either St Albans or Poplar (more likely).
1871 Census, Residence 31 Fishpool St St Albans, Henry Gooch (Head), Occupation Gun maker, Age 58, Catherine (Dau), Occupation Straw hat maker, Age 37.
1871 Census - Brown Family
Registration District Poplar
Sub-District Poplar
Parish Poplar
County London, Middlesex
Father Richard W Brown, age 32, born Hampshire. Mother Francis Brown, age 35, born Herefordshire. Son Walter H Brown, age 13, born Herefordshire. Son Horace Brown, age 6, born Herefordshire. Son Frederick Brown, age 4, born Herefordshire. Dau Kate Brown, age under 1, born Poplar.
This information from Familysearch.org index. Looking at the digitised record on Ancestry.com, the script is very poor and hard to read. For Richard W the birth place looks closer to Herefordshire or maybe Hertfordshire. All the other mentions of birth place are "do" that is same as above (except for Kate which is clearly Poplar). Mother "Francis" could be Harriet poorly written.
1873 Couldn't find any Lottie Brown, but a Louisa Brown, Born 24/5/1873 Workhouse St Pancras Bapt 25/6/1873 Old Church St Pancras London Mother Harriet Brown, No evidence that this person is Lottie Brown dau of Richard Walter and Harriet Brown.
1878 Electoral Record - Richard Walter Brown Residence 33 Avenue Rd St Mary Stratford Bow Tower Hamlets.
1881 Census, Residence 105 High St Poplar London, Robert (Head), Occupation Journeyman Baker, Age 49, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Harriet (Wife), Occupation, Age 45, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Frederick (Son) Occupation Plasterer, Age 17, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Martin (Son) Occupation Baker, Age 21, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Kate (Dau) Occupation Scholar, Age 11, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Lottie (Dau) Occupation Scholar, Age 7, Born St Albans Hertfordshire.
1883 Henry Gooch aged 73 dies St Albans
1886 Lottie Brown Death June 1886, 14 yrs, Mile End, 1c, 321. Not sighted this certificate so I can't be sure that this person is the daughter of Harriet and Richard Walter Brown - I now have this certificate and she is not the child of Harriet and Richard Walter
1888 Frederick Brown resident in Melbourne Victoria. According to his son, Frederick Brown made a number of trips to Victoria, before he settled in Melbourne. He was described as visiting South Africa as a ship’s baker.
1888 Electoral Record - Richard Walter Brown Residence 29 Aberfeldy St Dee St Tower Hamlets Poplar
1889 Frederick Brown Age 22. Batchelor B. 1867, St Albans Essex, England, Married 7 Sep Ida Wild, Christ’s Church, Hawthorn Victoria, Witnesses Thomas William Joy and A H Brady
1891 Census Catherine Gooch age 59 Straw Hat maker. Address 2 Fishpool St St Albans Hertfordshire.
1893 Electoral Record - Richard Walter Brown Residence 48 Ettrick St Tower Hamlets Poplar.
1895 Electoral Record - Richard Walter Brown Residence 41 Ettrick St Tower Hamlets Poplar.
1899 Richard Walter Brown Death March 1899, 66 yrs, Poplar, 1c, 421. Not sighted this certificate so I can't be sure that this is the correct person (pretty confident though).
1901 Census, Residence 41 Ettrick St Poplar London, Harriet (Head), Occupation Widow, Age 64, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Walter (Son) Occupation Breadworker Baker, Age 42, Born St Albans Hertfordshire; Kate (Dau) Occupation Forewoman confectioner, Age 30, Born Poplar (plus three boarders - one cooper and two gas stokers).
1902 Walter Brown (baker) Emigrates from London to Melbourne.
1911 Census, record 41 Ettrick St Poplar, London, Harriet (Widow), Occupation Old age pensioner, Age 74, Born St Albans Hertfordshire (for the last three years paralysis; Kate (Dau) Occupation Boys trouser machinist (wkr), Age 30, Born Poplar (plus one boarder).
1911 Harriet Brown dies 41 Ettrick St, Poplar, Tower Hamlets, London.
1915 Walter Henry Brown dies 153 A’Beckett St, Melbourne.
1920 Frederick Brown dies Church St Richmond, Oedema of lungs, Arterio Scleroris and Heart failure. Treated for 2 years, last treatment 22/4/20 Dr Matheson. Buried Springvale Cemetery 22/4/20.
I haven't searched for Kate Brown's death yet.
Thursday 13 March 2014
18. Lottie Brown Daughter of Richard Walter and Harriet Brown
Couldn't find any Lottie Brown, but a Louisa Brown
Born 24/5/1873
Workhouse St Pancras
Bapt 25/6/1873
Old Church St Pancras London
Mother Harriet Brown
No evidence that this person is Lottie Brown dau of Richard and Harriet
Born 24/5/1873
Workhouse St Pancras
Bapt 25/6/1873
Old Church St Pancras London
Mother Harriet Brown
No evidence that this person is Lottie Brown dau of Richard and Harriet
17. Richard Walter Brown - Electoral Records
There are a number of Richard Walter Brown named electors, butthe following are those who are name in and around Poplar
1878 33 Avenue Rd St Mary Stratford Bow Tower Hamlets
1888 29 Aberfeldy St Dee St Tower Hamlets Poplar
1893 48 Ettrick St Tower Hamlets Poplar
1895 41 Ettrick St Tower Hamlets Poplar
1878 33 Avenue Rd St Mary Stratford Bow Tower Hamlets
1888 29 Aberfeldy St Dee St Tower Hamlets Poplar
1893 48 Ettrick St Tower Hamlets Poplar
1895 41 Ettrick St Tower Hamlets Poplar
Wednesday 12 March 2014
16. Further Research for Richard Brown
Lottie Brown
Death June 1886
14 yrs, Mile End, 1c, 321
Richard Walter Brown
Death March 1899
66 yrs, Poplar, 1c, 421
Kate Brown
Death Sept 1932
63 yrs, Hackney, 1b, 342
or
Death Dec 1934
64 yrs, Fulham, 1a, 320
Death June 1886
14 yrs, Mile End, 1c, 321
Richard Walter Brown
Death March 1899
66 yrs, Poplar, 1c, 421
Kate Brown
Death Sept 1932
63 yrs, Hackney, 1b, 342
or
Death Dec 1934
64 yrs, Fulham, 1a, 320
Tuesday 11 March 2014
15. Harriet Brown Died 8 April 1911
Attached is a copy of the death certificate for Harriet Brown. Key information from the certificate:
Place of Death; 41 Ettrick Street
Age; 74 years (born c1836/7)
Occupation; Widow of Richard Walter Brown, Journeyman Baker
Cause of death; Hemiplegia, Senile debility. Certified by GR Young MD
Informant; Kate Brown, daughter in attendance, 41 Ettrick St Bromley
This information is important as it confirms that the husband/father in this family is Richard Brown, not Robert Brown. So, it is now almost certain that the family Richard and Harriet Brown plus children can be pinned down for:
1911 Death (Harriet)
1911 Census (Harriet and Kate)
1902 Emigration (Walter)
1901 Census (Harriet, Walter and Kate)
1891 Census - nil found
1881 Census (Robert, Harriet, Frederick, Martin, Kate, Lottie). Although the information is odd (names, dates discrepancies it is likely that this is the same Richard and Harriet Brown plus family)
1871 No clear record
1867 Birth (Frederick)
1861 Census (Richard, Harriet and Henry (Walter))
Place of Death; 41 Ettrick Street
Age; 74 years (born c1836/7)
Occupation; Widow of Richard Walter Brown, Journeyman Baker
Cause of death; Hemiplegia, Senile debility. Certified by GR Young MD
Informant; Kate Brown, daughter in attendance, 41 Ettrick St Bromley
This information is important as it confirms that the husband/father in this family is Richard Brown, not Robert Brown. So, it is now almost certain that the family Richard and Harriet Brown plus children can be pinned down for:
1911 Death (Harriet)
1911 Census (Harriet and Kate)
1902 Emigration (Walter)
1901 Census (Harriet, Walter and Kate)
1891 Census - nil found
1881 Census (Robert, Harriet, Frederick, Martin, Kate, Lottie). Although the information is odd (names, dates discrepancies it is likely that this is the same Richard and Harriet Brown plus family)
1871 No clear record
1867 Birth (Frederick)
1861 Census (Richard, Harriet and Henry (Walter))
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